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Eat the Grindstone
Grant Barrett
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2015/03/23 - 3:28pm

The books we love as children may influence our careers more than we realize. As a child, Martha was fascinated with stories of cracking codes, and Grant loved books with glossaries--not that far from the kind of work they do today. A caller from Michigan credits her long career in medicine to a children's book called Nurse Nancy. Also, ever traveled to England and ended up incorporating British phrases into your own vocabulary? You're feeling "the chameleon effect." And you know when you return to your car and take a moment before leaving to check your phone messages? What do you call that? Plus, a Dial-a-Joke word quiz, baffie slippers, bacon collar, the power of rhyme, and Shakespeare's First Folio goes on tour.

This episode first aired March 20, 2015.

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[Image Can Not Be Found] Language Without Metaphors
Would you rather write in a language with no punctuation or without the use of similes or metaphors? Grant and Martha agree that texting has proven our ability to get a point across without periods or commas. On the other hand, sometimes an idea just needs to be expressed with a metaphor.

[Image Can Not Be Found] Primed to Love Rhyme
An American who worked as an au pair in Italy found that children there didn't seem to react so positively to fun sayings like, "No way, Jose" or "Ready, Freddie?" Yet some research suggests we're primed to love rhyme.

[Image Can Not Be Found] Coffee Pot vs. Coffee Maker
Office workers in Richmond, Virginia, are having a dispute: Is the appliance that makes the coffee a coffee pot or a coffee maker? This is a classic case of synecdoche, where a single part—like the pot that holds the hot coffee—is used to refer to the whole object.

[Image Can Not Be Found] Bacon Collar
When you forget to put those plastic stays in your collar before you wash a dress shirt, the curled-up result is what some folks call bacon collar.

[Image Can Not Be Found] Blank-a-Blank Game
In honor of the old Dial-a-Joke phone line, Quiz Guy John Chaneski has a game called "Blank-a-Blank," with clues to different terms that have the letter a sandwiched between two dashes.

[Image Can Not Be Found] Biffed It
If someone has biffed it, they've fallen down and embarrassed themselves.

[Image Can Not Be Found] Cat Face
Cat face is a cute way to describe something like a piece of fruit or a tree that's grown in on itself, giving it a puckered kind of indentation. Particularly in the African-American community, it's used to denote a wrinkle to be ironed out.

[Image Can Not Be Found] Don't Chew Cabbage Twice
The saying "I don't chew my cabbage twice," means I'm not going to repeat myself. The ancient Romans, by the way, ate cabbage as a protection against hangovers, but detested the smell of twice-cooked cabbage.

[Image Can Not Be Found] The Cow Ate the Grindstone
There's an old Texan proverb that goes "Lick by lick, the cow ate the grindstone." In other words, if you're dogged enough, anything is possible.

[Image Can Not Be Found] The Blog Reads
Even though blogs can't read and newspapers can't speak, it's totally appropriate to write "the blog reads," or "the newspaper says."

[Image Can Not Be Found] Heal Before You're Married
We spoke on a recent show about the joking consolation parents offer to a crying child, "It'll be better before you’re married." A podcast listener in Siberia emailed to say that in Russian, a similar saying translates to, "It has enough time to heal before you're married." This also shows up in a translation of Anton Chekhov's The Cherry Orchard.

[Image Can Not Be Found] Chameleon Effect of Language
A listener named Kio from Los Angeles says she spent some time in England, and while her colleagues there claimed that her valley girl slang was rubbing off on them, she herself picked up plenty of English slang. This is a classic linguistic phenomenon called the Chameleon Effect, whereby people adopt the language and customs of those around themselves in order to feel like part of a group.

[Image Can Not Be Found] Le Petit Voyage
What do you call that moment when you get back in the car and before you drive off, you check back in with your phone to see what you missed in the world of email, texting and cyber communication? How about le petit voyage?

[Image Can Not Be Found] Baffies
Baffies—not bathies—is a Scottish term for the slippers you might wear in the morning to and from the shower, cooking breakfast, or doing just about anything during the transition from barefootedness to having real shoes on.

[Image Can Not Be Found] Books and Career Choices
We got a call from a nurse named Nancy who, what do you know, grew up reading a book called Nurse Nancy. Is there a book you read as a child that influenced your career choices?

[Image Can Not Be Found] Shakespeare's First Folio
In observance of the 400th anniversary of Shakespeare's death, copies of his First Folio will be touring all 50 states, plus Puerto Rico, for the public to see. It seems fitting, considering what D.H. Lawrence wrote about the Bard: "When I read Shakespeare I am struck with wonder that such trivial people should muse and thunder in such lovely language."

This episode is hosted by Martha Barnette and Grant Barrett, and produced by Stefanie Levine.

Photo by David Rosen. Used under a Creative Commons license.

Books Mentioned in the Broadcast

Nurse Nancy by Kathryn Jackson
The Cherry Orchard by Anton Chekhov

Music Used in the Broadcast

Title Artist Album Label
Rocksteady For Two Roger Rivas and the Brothers of Reggae Last Goodbye Rivas Recordings
Try A Little Tenderness Soul Flutes CTI CTI
Cut The Cake Average White Band Cut The Cake Atlantic
One More Dance Roger Rivas and the Brothers of Reggae Last Goodbye Rivas Recordings
Trust in Me Soul Flutes Trust in Me CTI
Blue Melody Roger Rivas and the Brothers of Reggae Last Goodbye Rivas Recordings
Ace High Roger Rivas and the Brothers of Reggae Last Goodbye Rivas Recordings
Let’s Call The Whole Thing Off Ella Fitzgerald Ella Fitzgerald Ella Fitzgerald Sings The George and Ira Gershwin Song Book Verve
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2015/03/23 - 5:41pm

Books and Careers
I do not know the name, but I remember getting a book at about age 13 from the local library that discussed how light was emitted or absorbed because an electron transitioned from one level to the number. As a science fair project, I even tried to make an electroluminescent lamp. I did not think much of it for several years, but in graduate school I gravitated toward a lab where we fired ions at gaseous atoms and studied how the collisions excited either the ion or atom.

I have not done that work since graduate school, but I am very interested in science as I was before I grabbed the book.

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2015/03/25 - 9:20am

On that topic, I can easily see why someone named Nancy might be influenced by a book called Nurse Nancy. But I have a hard time believing there wasn't some previous predilection at work.

In my case I ended up in science (as did EmmettRedd). I already had an interest motivated by my uncle, who lived next door. He was a high school mad-scientist type. Showed me the Moon through a telescope he built (including grinding his own mirror). That was around age 7-8. I like to say I was "hooked on photonics." :)

A few years later I discovered the Tom Swift series, and the Tom Corbett Space Cadet series. Pretty sure they're both now out of print. I ended up first in the Air Force working with computers (still main-frames at the time) and later studied science in college. Those books were a definite influence, but the predilection was already there. I'm not sure if what is known as a work of fiction could influence a career all by itself. No idea what the psychologists would say about that.

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