We got a call from a nurse named Nancy who, what do you know, grew up reading a book called Nurse Nancy. Is there a book you read as a child that influenced your career choices? This is part of a complete episode.
Transcript of “Books and Career Choices”
Hello, you have A Way with Words.
Hi, this is Nancy from Traverse City, Michigan.
Hello, Nancy. How are you doing?
Hi, Nancy. Welcome.
Hi, Martha. Hi, Grant. Wonderful.
What’s cooking?
Well, I’m calling in response to a show we heard on our way home from church a couple Sundays ago
Where you were discussing names and how a person’s name influences their career choices.
And as I mentioned, my name is Nancy.
See, when I was in about kindergarten, my parents gave me one of those little golden books, Nurse Nancy.
And it was just wonderful.
I remember taking it for show and tell because it had real Band-Aids inside.
It did?
Yeah.
No kidding.
And Nancy was a young girl in the neighborhood who would take her little red wagon and her medical bag wherever there was emergencies, such as skin, knees, and that sort of thing.
And she would transport injured neighbors in the little wagon,
And you would take those little Band-Aids,
And she put the Band-Aid on her little friend’s knee,
And I just thought that was so cool,
And now I’ve been a nurse for more than three decades,
And it is one of the huge definers of who I am.
That’s amazing, and it’s really cute, by the way.
That’s an amazing, sweet story.
What if they’d given you a Nancy Drew book?
Would you be a gumshoe now?
Well, I did read a lot of Nancy Drew and a lot of mysteries.
Didn’t stick like the Nancy Nurse did.
Nancy Nurse, that’s for sure.
Yeah, that’s a great story.
I wonder how many of us, if we think about it, can trace back our lives now to early influential books.
Well, you know, there were all those Martha books about the dog, but fortunately, you know, the Martha Speaks series, but that came out after I was a kid.
Yeah, there were no grants in any of my books until well into the 2000s.
Interesting. But, you know, I think it’s really interesting to think about books that influenced your career choices when you’re young.
I mean, that a book would have that much power on the rest of your life.
I think you make a great point, Nurse Nancy.
Well, thanks.
I’m thinking about in my own experience, it wasn’t a book.
Well, I read a lot of the Encyclopedia Brown mystery things.
But then the one that really influenced me when I was a kid was by Herbert S. Zim.
He wrote a bunch of books for kids, and one of them was Codes and Secret Writing.
Oh, nice.
Oh, wow.
Yes.
And my friend Ingrid Siegert and I, in fourth and fifth grade, we’d carry around these little notebooks like Secret Agents,
And we would make up our own little codes based on the stories in that book.
And, you know, I think about it now.
I mean, I spent years studying ancient Greek, you know, trying to get to the bottom of a code.
And I think it really did influence me.
That whole ciphering and deciphering sort of thing.
Exactly.
I mean, that’s what we do every week.
Did you have a book like that, girl?
I did some of that.
Most of the influence for me came much later.
I had a grandfather who worked as a janitor in a school, and he would often bring home books that they were discarding,
And they would be dictionaries and encyclopedias and textbooks.
Oh, lucky.
And I loved the glossaries in those and actually cut them out and compiled them all together.
You did?
And then years later, I became a dictionary editor.
But a lot of dictionary editors have similar stories.
They do.
And there’s nothing unusual about that.
But the love of languages probably came from J.R.R. Tolkien, the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings and the big appendices.
They’re just loaded with linguistic information.
And all this stuff he created based loosely upon old English
And other forms of ancient speech, runic speech and runic writing.
And just mostly from there, just trying to puzzle out what he was writing.
Wow.
Well, Nancy, I’m betting that we’re going to hear from a lot of other listeners
Who had similar experiences.
Did you read a book as a kid that influenced the path you took
In terms of a career in the rest of your life?
Call us and tell us about it at 877-929-9673 or send it in email to words@waywordradio.org.
Nurse Nancy, we are grateful that you called and shared that story.
Well, thank you.
It’s been a pleasure and an honor to be on your show.
Oh, thank you.
How delightful.
Congratulations on a long career.
Thank you.
All right, bye-bye.
Bye-bye.


Let me warn you there be an involved story here.
I did have a book that ended up influencing me a lot. When I was half-way through high school in Poland and still not sure what to do with myself later a friend lent me her English-language ‘Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone’. She knew the only thing I had confidence in in terms of skill was the English language, and she didn’t much care to read the book herself. So she lent it to me. It may not sound like much but when English is not your mother tongue and you’ve only been studying it 3-4 hours a week for about 5 years that book was an impressive challenge. It was a proper-sized book, one with no pictures, just words and all in English. I remember dreading it a bit, being in a bit of awe even. The only other time I felt something equal would be when I got my first copy of an OED at University. I had a reputation for being really good at English but that was a different level altogether from classwork. It was a proper book. But one way or another I did start reading it.
And wonder of wonders – I found a total of 3 words in the entire book I didn’t altogether know. I can only remember one by now – ‘tabby’ for a cat with that very specific coat coloring. The word, once I found out what it meant – I mean everyone has seen that type of coat, but Polish had no word for it. English speakers and Polish speakers have all seen that most generic cat coat type and yet only English speakers had that super-useful label for it. I mean it’s like 70% of all cats are tabbies, it’s practically its own sub-species (don’t bite my head off, biologists, I mean that in a joking way), it *is* a useful word. So I not only found out I could read real, proper books in English, I found out English has useful words that Polish doesn’t. I started buying up the next installments of Harry Potter and started learning every consecutive book was more complex in terms of language, wordplay, everything. I realized that what I liked best about the Harry Potter books was the way J.K. Rowling would build her literary world with language alone. And it was done in a way that I liked but didn’t understand at the time that I now understand to be the fact that JKR respected the intelligence of her readers. She would drop these little word-gems off hand – names of magical ingredients, names of places, spells, creatures, even the invective and slanderous names for people of different blood status – those were all just words but they have constructed a complex, coherent and completely magical world everyone would love to live in. And I would have to construct this world out of the words and that was magic in itself.
And that experience not only convinced me language is magic, but that I can actually learn English and about English that I have come to love and even make a career aout of it. I could have my cake and eat it. Better still, I could share it and share it endlessly and have everyone enjoy it. And I kept this fascination with language being able to construct entire worlds in mind.
So how did all this impact my adult life? I went on to study English and Russian languages university level, wrote an MA thesis about the Russian translation of the books ( which is hilariously atrocious and I highly recommend it to anyone who speaks Russian – it’ll push all your rage buttons). And I went on pursuing my interest in how languages create realities we live in. I am now managing a psycholinguistic and experimental pragmatics laboratory at a Faculty of English at our local university and I do PhD-level research on the relationship between language, thought, and culture (yes, the lingustic relativity hypothesis, language geeks out there). And I know for a fact that the interests I pursue now all date back to that one experience with the first Harry Potter book. I like to think JKR would be happy to have dragged a soul into that kind of love of language 🙂