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Why do we keep "double-u"?
Allan K
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2008/11/20 - 7:44pm

For a number of years I have wondered why the name of the 23rd letter of the English alphabet is still pronounced “double-u”. “W” is different from all other letters in that all other letters have just one syllable, but “w” has three.

In our society today, when people are trying to do things faster and more efficiently, the letter “w” has surprisingly persisted despite its lengthy name. Its usage seems to continuously increase thanks to the pervasiveness of the internet; practically all website URLs begin with “www”. Everyone takes it in stride as they try to say “double-u double-u double-u dot…” The letters tend to get slurred together and sound messy, but everyone knows what is meant.

If English is the living language that we claim it to be, why wouldn't we be able to change the name of a letter?

I propose changing the name of the 23rd letter of the English alphabet to “dub”. It still retains a link to its origins, it is easier and quicker to say, and it falls in line with all of the other monosyllabic letters. You wouldn't have to change the alphabet song - you'd no longer have to blurt out the staccato ‘dub-ble-you' - it would make the ending more uniformly rhythmic. Web site URLs would be conveyed as “dub dub dub dot…” You see? It rolls off the tongue more easily and is a lot faster to say.

If people would prefer a name that reflects the sound that the letter makes, then it can be changed into something like “wuh” - pronounced like the beginning of “wonder”. This doesn't sound as good as “dub” when saying a URL, though: “wuh wuh wuh dot…”

As a Canadian, I tried to think of a name that rhymed with “zed”, but “wed” probably wouldn't be well-accepted… although, you could refer to two “u”s getting “wed”.

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2008/11/20 - 8:56pm

Digging back into high school french, I seem to remember that they pronounce it double vé which always made more sense to me since the way we tend to write it, it often takes more the shape of two v's together.

EmmettRedd
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2008/11/24 - 8:33am

The trend to shorten "double-u" has already dropped one syllable. We have been calling the POTUS "dub-ya" for almost 8 years now. :-/

Emmett

Marc C
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2008/11/25 - 11:53am

Oddly enough, my friends and I have been using "dub" and "dubs" for the last couple years. I'd be lying if I didn't say it was a result of the internet. The proliferation of the phrase, "double-u, double-u, double-u, dot..." severely influenced the language. We've actually been experimenting with "triple-dub dot". So the URL to Gmail would be "triple-dub dot gmail dot com."

Additionally, we commonly use (ironically only, I swear) the phrase "double-u, tee, eff" to represent the internet colloquialism "WTF." This, very quickly, shortened to "dubs, tee, eff." So "dubs" has been making the rounds across America for a little while, at least in my circle.

And while we're proposing and dictating cultural verbiage, can we just add a second-person plural already? It's either "yall" or "yous", and I don't care which it is, just give me one.

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2008/12/12 - 10:18pm

Remember Hitler's revenge…the Vee Dub?Mid 50's.The shorting of a W has been around a while.

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