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The English language is a beautiful and diverse creature. Don't let the Grammar Nazis kill it.
Grant Barrett
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2009/03/02 - 9:57am

The eloquent vernacular. Adam Roberts rails against Grammar Nazis. "The Grammar Nazi wants to keep the English language in its original plastic package, high on a shelf and out of the reach of us common folks. Grammar is a thing to be looked at and studied, but never to be played with. Interaction and innovation are the enemies."

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2009/03/05 - 11:48pm

Speaking of Nazis, in Nazi Germany there was a movement to Germanize the language and get rid of all words of foreign origin. Soemtimes it was a bit over the top. To this day, Germans still joke about the tubeapple (banana)(schlauchapfel in German). OTOH she-apple or apple-ette (my translations; Apfelsine in German) are at least as common in Deutschland as orange. Quebec is on a similar binge; there are more English-origin words in common usage in France than there are in French Canada.

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2009/03/06 - 8:19am

We should redirect all of the "radical linguistic prescriptivists" from English to Latin: it's already dead.

But once, it was alive.

One of my favorite stories from my high-school Latin (Yes, I am that old that my school had a Latin requirement, but not so old that I remember Latin as a living language) was when we were reading Caesar's Gallic Wars. Mr. Ligon was explaining to us the "Ablative of Military Accompaniment."

For those unfamiliar, Latin inflection allowed that prepositions sometimes be omitted. When a noun was in the ablative case, it could often function as a prepositional phrase sans preposition. And through the centuries, Latin scholars post hoc had come up with names and rules for all of these situations.

So we encountered the "Ablative of Miliary Accompaniment" while reading Caesar in Mr. Ligon's class. Having explained it, he then noted: "This is the only occurrance of the 'Ablative of Military Accompaniment' in all Latin texts known to us. In reality, it is just a fancy name for the night Caesar got drunk in his tent and forgot to write down the prepostion."

Suddenly, albeit briefly, Latin came alive. Thanks, Mr. Ligon.

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