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Raining Cats and Dogs
Grant Barrett
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2012/05/28 - 11:22am

Get out your umbrellas — it's raining pitchforks and ... bullfrogs? This week, it's odd expressions that mean "a heavy downpour." Also, holistic vs. wholistic, recurrence vs. reoccurrence, flash drive vs. thumb drive, whether it's good or bad to be jacked up, stomach Steinways and bunheads, and the origin of listless. And not to mince words, but what does the expression "not to mince words" really mean?

This episode first aired May 26, 2012.

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 Classical Musician Slang
In what profession would you deal with clams, footballs, hairpins, and axes? They're all slang terms used by classical musicians.

 Origin of Listless
What's the origin of the term listless? Does it mean you can't find the piece of paper with the groceries you need? No. Listless shares a root with the English word lust. In its most literal sense, listless means "without lust," or "lacking want or desire."

 Jacked-Up
Is being jacked up a good thing or a bad thing? It depends. To jack up means "to raise up," as with a car on a lift. But jack up also has a negative meaning, perhaps deriving from hijack or blackjack, suggesting that something's been hurt or cheated.

 Song Title Word Game
Our Quiz Master John Chaneski has some answers to classic songs in this week's puzzle about song titles in question form. For example, the answer "Because they're too dumb to stay out of it" answers the musical question from Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers, "Why Do Fools Fall in Love?"

 Etymology of Mince
What do we mean by the expression "not to mince words"? The New York Times' Paul Krugman often uses this idiom meaning "to be straightforward and blunt." The verb mince means "to make small," and is a linguistic relative of such words as diminish, miniature, and minute. Mincing is what you do when you're cutting onions into small pieces or diminishing the force of your speech by using euphemisms.

 Stoved Fingers
In an earlier episode, we discussed various meanings for the term stove up. One meaning of stove up is "to be in pain from work or exercise to the point where it's hard to move." Similarly, lots of athletes will get stoved fingers from getting them jammed with volleyballs or baseballs.

 Flash Memory Device
Do you store files on a flash drive, a thumb drive, a USB stick — or perhaps on a monkey? What do you call the little device that holds flash memory and goes into the USB drive of a computer? Some come in wild forms, like sushi or animals.

 Stomach Steinway
Did you ever take lessons to play the stomach Steinway? You know, the accordion? That's another bit of musicians' slang sent in by a listener, along with the term bunhead, which means "a ballet dancer."

 Recurrence vs. Reoccurrence
Which is the better term, recurrence or reoccurrence? A look at the corpus of American literature confirms that recurrence is far and away the more commonly used word denoting "something that occurs more than once."

 Virginia Folk Sayings
An old book of Virginia folk sayings contains such gems as "It's as old as my tongue and a little older than my teeth," and "He can't spell A-B-L-E."

 Raining Pitchforks
What do you call a fierce rainfall? There are lots of vivid terms in this country besides "it's raining cats and dogs." Some Americans say "It's raining pitchforks and hoe handles," or "raining pitchforks and bullfrogs." Or they might call a heavy rain a toadstrangler, a ditchworker, or stumpwasher. In other countries, this kind of cacophonous rain is denoted by lots of picturesque phrases involving imaginary falling things, including chair legs, female trolls, ropes, jugs, and even husbands.

 Holistic vs. Wholistic
If something pertains to a whole system or body, is it holistic or wholistic? Despite that tempting "w," holistic is the correct term. It's an example of folk etymology, the result of looking at the word whole and assuming that wholistic is the proper correlative.

 New Slang from Potsdam
If something's soft and fuzzy, why not call it suvvy? Grant collected that bit of slang and more during a recent appearance in Potsdam, NY.

 Demonyms
Everyone knows New Yorkers and Angelenos, but what do you call someone from Sheboygan, Wisconsin? Demonyms, or the names for people from a given place, can get pretty complicated, but there are seven rules as drawn by George Stewart, and Paul Dickson's book Labels for Locals has lots of other answers.

 Chinese Proverb Fool
A Chinese proverb says, "He who asks a question is a fool for a minute. He who does not remains a fool forever."

This episode is hosted by Martha Barnette and Grant Barrett, and produced by Stefanie Levine.

Photo by Matt Brown. Used under a Creative Commons license.

Book Mentioned in the Broadcast

Labels for Locals by Paul Dickson

Music Used in the Broadcast

Title Artist Album Label
Tapioca Jimmy McGriff Outside Looking In Lester Radio Corp.
911 Beat Timmy Timeless 35th and Adams Timeless Takeover
Sabotage Beastie Boys Ill Communication Capitol Records
Let The Sunshine Dennis Coffey Trio Hair and Thangs Maverick
Got Myself a Good Man Pucho and His Latin Soul Brothers Jungle Fire! Prestige
Sure Shot Beastie Boys Ill Communication Capitol Records
Tom vs. Galt Timmy Timeless 35th and Adams Timeless Takeover
Our Day Will Come The Slackers Better Late Than Never Moon Ska
Namaste Beastie Boys Ill Communication Capitol Records
Let's Call The Whole Thing Off Ella Fitzgerald Ella Fitzgerald Sings The George and Ira Gershwin Song Book Verve
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2012/05/28 - 9:51pm

Jacked up buildings: A notable example is Galveston, TX. The 1900 hurricane surge literally washed over the entire island. The few surviving buildings were jacked up 20 feet and dredge spoil was poured under them to raise the island.

 

Another form of stove up is "stoved in" such as an object puncturing the hull of a vessel.

 

Stomach Steinway: also slush pump (slide trombone), licorice stick (clarinet), and kettle drum (timpani).

 

Gullywasher: Virtually all English Bibles are based on the King James version, which waters down (pun optional) the famous ending of Amos 5 with the use of "waters". The word is usually translated as "torrent" and the meaning is "Let justice sweep down like a flash flood" - the image of the wall of water coming down the wadi, cleaning out all the accumulated trash. The only wall of water the KJV translators could have seen is the tidal surge on the Severn which, at a foot high, can rarely be surfed.

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2012/05/30 - 2:20am

Favorite demonyms: Burkinabe, Monegasque, Macanese.

ToddL
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2012/05/30 - 3:05pm

Well done with the Beastie Boys interludes.

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2012/05/30 - 4:23pm

Grant Barrett said:

Everyone knows New Yorkers and Angelenos, but what do you call someone from Sheboygan, Wisconsin? Demonyms, or the names for people from a given place, can get pretty complicated, but there are seven rules as drawn by George Stewart, and Paul Dickson's book Labels for Locals has lots of other answers.

I grew up a few miles from Sheboygan, and can faithfully report they called themselves Sheboyganites. That seems to follow Stewart's rules. But the town I grew up in was named Two Rivers. And we never called ourselves "Two Riverites." I don't recall we even had a demonym.

[Edit: My wife says she also heard people use the term Sheboyganer.]

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2012/05/31 - 3:52pm

Grant Barrett said:

Get out your umbrellas — it's raining pitchforks and ... bullfrogs? This week, it's odd expressions that mean "a heavy downpour."

My mother (and her mother, as I recall) would sometimes say the rain was "coming down in sheets" or, for greater emphasis, "coming down in sheets and pillowcases".

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2012/05/31 - 4:33pm

"Words are toys" - I love it.

Re: Listless / lust:

In Danish, there is arbejdslyst, which directly translates to work lust  (enjoying one's work.   I might translate it as work fever).   I also heard one Dane declare during her "spring cleaning" that she had rengoeringslyst - or cleaning lust (cleaning fever?).   I have always wondered if there were more such lysts in common use that I didn't hear of.

In English, I think only wanderlust and lust for life have survived the jump.   Any others?

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2012/06/18 - 6:54am

Q: What's worse than raining cats and dogs?

A: Hailing streetcars and buses.

Jazyk
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2012/06/21 - 2:18pm

In Brazil we sometimes say Está chovendo canivete (It is raining pocketknives).

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