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Is "alot" ever correct?
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2010/05/07 - 9:15pm

I had this discussion with my wife last night, and online dictionaries seemed to confirm that she was correct: "alot" is not a word.

Yet for some reason "a lot" looks strange to me when used as an adverb, as in "I run a lot" or "We go to the movies a lot". However, "I have a lot of friends" and "That looks like a lot of work" seem correct to me.

Am I completely wrong here or is there anything to the way I see this?

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2010/05/08 - 7:08am

Even though it looks like 50% of adult, native English-speakers seem to think that it is, I'd say no. Maybe in 50 years it will be. Also, I guess it is singular. "A lot of cars IS black."

That and people who think you need an apostrophe to form a plural are the two surprises I've noticed since e-mail has exposed us to so much personal writing.

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2010/05/08 - 9:08am

Regarding the use of plural verb after "a lot of":
A number of, A lot of, and a few of all belong to a group of expressions called partitives for countables. While the article a might make them appear singular, they represent a plural number of countable objects, and they take plural verb forms.

See an earlier post here.

Partitives for countables.

Regarding the original question of the spelling of "a lot" vs. *"alot":
A lot of people use the spelling *alot, but it is not currently part of standard English either in its partitive use or in its adverbial use. While I do see it misspelled a lot, it is a lot better to write it as two words.

NOTE: My online search for *"see it alot" yeilds 69,700 hits; "see it a lot" yeilds 10,400,000. *"Alot better," 1,400,000; "a lot better" 62,300,000.

torpeau
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2010/05/08 - 1:19pm

Glenn said:

Regarding the use of plural verb after "a lot of":
A number of, A lot of, and a few of all belong to a group of expressions called partitives for countables. While the article a might make them appear singular, they represent a plural number of countable objects, and they take plural verb forms.

See an earlier post here.

Partitives for countables.


Hmmm, interesting, but I'm not that the school teachers I had would buy that concept.

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2010/05/08 - 1:26pm

Would they buy what the Oxford English Dictionary has to say on the subject?
A number of

Although the expression 'a number' is strictly singular, the phrase 'a number of' is used with plural nouns (as what grammarians call a determiner). The verb should therefore be plural: 'A number of people are waiting for the bus'.

This is not the case with 'the number', which is still singular: 'The number of people here has increased since this morning.'

There are also countless guides that address this very point of partitives for countables.
U of Washington guide

So it would be:
A number of friends are coming to my party.
A lot of cars are black.
A few of the library books are damaged.

torpeau
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2010/05/08 - 9:11pm

Okay, I guess I'm convinced.

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2010/05/08 - 11:21pm

Yet for some reason "a lot" looks strange to me when used as an adverb, as in "I run a lot" or "We go to the movies a lot"

In these cases, both "alot" and "a lot" would be, technically, incorrect (at least in my opinion). A better alternative, at least here, would be "often".

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2010/05/10 - 12:29pm

Torpeau - I'm a speech-language therapist in an elementary school and I would never teach my students that "a lot" is singular. Neither would any of the teachers I know.

torpeau
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2010/05/10 - 6:24pm

Word Nerd said:

Torpeau - I'm a speech-language therapist in an elementary school and I would never teach my students that "a lot" is singular. Neither would any of the teachers I know.


Well, I accepted Glenn's reasoning.

I do know that some of what I was taught as "correct English" in the '50s was discarded later because, if there was no communications error, the earlier rules need not apply.

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2010/05/14 - 1:12pm

Sorry, didn't mean to offend you.

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2010/06/14 - 7:03am

Was reading in a newspaper this morning: "There's a lot of gray area..." Here it is singular. English is tricky.

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