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If you're nibbling on slippery Jims or sipping sweet soup, chances are you're in the Badger State. It's the language of Wisconsin -- explained at last. Also, the famous abolitionist whose name became an exclamation, and how to respond if someone says, "Well, aren't you the chawed rosin!" Plus, parking garages vs. parking ramps, trouper vs. trooper, my boo, and the possible origin of toodles.
This episode first aired November 2, 2013.
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[Image Can Not Be Found] Mosquito Limerick
The robin may be the official State Bird of Wisconsin, but a listener from the Badger State shares a limerick about the unofficial state bird: the mosquito.
[Image Can Not Be Found] My Boo
Boo and my boo are a terms of endearment common among African-Americans, going at least as far back as mid-90s jams like the Ghost Town DJ's' "My Boo."
[Image Can Not Be Found] Parking Garage vs. Parking Ramp
In parts of Wisconsin, parking garages are called parking ramps.
[Image Can Not Be Found] Church Narthex
The part of a church known as a foyer, vestibule, or lobby is sometimes called the narthex. This word appears to go back to the ancient Greek term for "fennel," although beyond that, its etymology is unclear.
[Image Can Not Be Found] Sweet Soup
What is sweet soup? It's a Wisconsin specialty, made of cherry or raspberry juice mixed with prunes, raisins, and tapioca, and served either warm or cold.
[Image Can Not Be Found] The Flat Word Game
Quiz Guy John Chaneski has a twist on a challenge that's a favorite among members of the National Puzzlers League, the classic fill-in-the-blank game called The Flat.
[Image Can Not Be Found] I'll be John Brown
The exclamations "I'll be John Brown!" and "I'll be John Browned!" have a sticky history, going back to view that the abolitionist John Brown was doing something damnable by arming a slave revolt.
[Image Can Not Be Found] Trouper vs. Trooper
Is the correct expression "He's a real trouper", or "He's a real trooper"? In its original form, the correct word was trouper, and referred to that the mantra of dedicated actors everywhere, "The show must go on!"
[Image Can Not Be Found] Slippery Jims
In Wisconsin, a slippery Jim is a kind of pickle.
[Image Can Not Be Found] Response "I'm Good"
A former waiter in Underhill, Vermont, is annoyed by restaurant patrons who respond to a server's query with I'm good rather than No, thank you when asked if they've had enough.
[Image Can Not Be Found] Milwaukee Goiter
Among Sconnies, or Wisconsinites, a synonym for beer belly is Milwaukee goiter.
[Image Can Not Be Found] German Influence on Wisconsin Dialect
In parts of Wisconsin where the dialect is heavily influenced by German, it's not unusual to hear phrases, like "Let's go buy some bakery" for "let's buy some baked goods," and "from little on up," meaning "from a young age."
[Image Can Not Be Found] Nairn
I don't want nairn, meaning "I don't want any," is a contraction of never a one, and it's been used for hundreds of years.
[Image Can Not Be Found] Chawed Rosin
"Well, aren't you the chawed rosin!" is a reference to the chewy sap of a gum tree, considered a sweet treat. It's used to refer to people who think highly of themselves, and is heard primarily in the South Midlands of the United States.
[Image Can Not Be Found] Captain, May I?
In Wisconsin, the game Mother, May I? goes by the name Captain, May I?
[Image Can Not Be Found] Toodles
Toodles, meaning "See you later," may come from toddle, as in to "amble" or "take leave," or it might simply derive from the sound of an old car horn.
[Image Can Not Be Found] Christmas Fooling
Christmas Fooling, the Norwegian tradition of dressing up and visiting folks around Christmas time, was once popular among young Wisconsinites.
This episode is hosted by Martha Barnette and Grant Barrett, and produced by Stefanie Levine.
Photo by Joshua Mayer. Used under a Creative Commons license.
Music Used in the Broadcast
Title | Artist | Album | Label |
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My Boo | Ghost Town Dj's | My Boo 12" Single | Columbia |
Blues for Celia | Greyboy Allstars | A Town Called Earth | Greyboy Records |
Turnip's Big Move | Greyboy Allstars | A Town Called Earth | Greyboy Records |
911 Beat | Timmy Timeless | 35th and Adams | Timeless Takeover |
The Brown's at Home | Greyboy Allstars | West Coast Boogaloo | Greyboy Records |
Tight Times | Jimmy McGriff | Electric Funk | Blue Note |
Blue Juice | Jimmy McGriff | The Worm | Solid State Records |
Tom vs. Galt | Timmy Timeless | 35th and Adams | Timeless Takeover |
Soul Dream | Greyboy Allstars | West Coast Boogaloo | Greyboy Records |
Fire Eater | Greyboy Allstars | West Coast Boogaloo | Greyboy Records |
Let’s Call The Whole Thing Off | Ella Fitzgerald | Ella Fitzgerald Ella Fitzgerald Sings The George and Ira Gershwin Song Book | Verve |
techne said
By the time I got to New Orleans, in 1964, "Boo" was a common term of address, right up there with "Honey" and "Sweety" in white middle class culture. As in "Where y'at, Boo."
I'll agree that it was around a lot earlier than the late 1980s.
Yogi Bear had a bromance going with "Boo Boo" when he first appeared in Hanna-Barbera's Huckleberry Hound show in 1958.
Random House says that "boo-boo" originated in the 1950-1955 era. It originally meant an injury of shock, perhaps slight pain, suffered by your dopplic kid, used to sympathize with the child and ease his pain.
I suspect that it may have come from Bibbidi Bobbidi Boo which charted in 1948, but as the song business had strong Jewish influences, Bubbe may be behind it somewhere.
I taught in a predominantly African-American university setting starting in 1980, and I became curious (but never quite had the nerve to ask) why female staffers (more administrative staff than faculty) would call each other "boo-boo" or "boo." It seemed to be a very distinctively black and female usage. I may have heard it more in the 1990s than in the previous decade, but I couldn't swear to that.
hippogriff said
I wonder if Captain, May I may have a prison background where the officer in charge of a prison work gang was addressed as cap'n.
It's not just prisons. Most LEO agencies use captain lieutenant and sergant for departmental leaders, as do military officers, and the sjipper of civilian watercraft and aircraft are called captain.
I always wondered if Cappy Dick was skipper of a tugboat or what. Rick Yager stopped drawing it in the mid '80s, but as he was born in 1909, I can imagine he wanted to retire.
How cool. I used to read Cappy Dick in my local rag. Haven't thought about it for ages. Thanks for the flashback!
So in the usual AWWW tradition of digressing from the main thread ... does anyone remember Mark Trail? When I was a Boy Scout, my scoutmaster made it required reading. This was in the late 60s. From that link, it's apparently still in print. No longer done by Ed Dodd, its creator, who retired last year. But it's being continued by Dodd's assistant James Allen.
Dodd was an environmentalist long before the first Earth Day. And he wasn't a preachy tree-hugger. Just a good educator.
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