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How many parts of speech are there?
deaconB
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2015/08/16 - 2:48pm

They post these things every so often.

 

Have the number of parts of speech changed? 

(Bullitt county is just south of Louisville, Kentucky, FWIW.  I was unaware that Kentuckt hadf a president, vice-president and governor....)

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2015/08/16 - 7:37pm

Interesting, thanks. Damn, do they even have truant officers anymore?

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2015/08/16 - 7:59pm

Heimhenge said

Interesting, thanks. Damn, do they even have truant officers anymore?

I do not recall any being mentioned during my 15-year school board tenure. But, I have a colleague in Mass. that really gave her trouble when her son (who has significant medical issues) missed a lot of school. After all, more full seats mean more money for school districts.

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2015/08/16 - 8:44pm

Capitalizing Governor  to look distinguished though,   could be to   tell tail of anti-federalism.

In the arithmetic question 8 if you take it as is, the building could be either half underground, or suspended in the air.

It is a hard test, and seems intimidating as signed  by  the  truant officer.  Today that means a lawsuit coming for sure.

deaconB
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2015/08/16 - 10:44pm

If the biolding is 40 feet high, amd ot's hald underground, it'd be 80 feet tall.  A triangle of 40 feet height and 3- feet base would have a long side of 50 feet - but you need to tie pff the rope at each end, amd the rope os going to sag, so a 50-foot rope won't dp; better buy a 6=' length.

 

In 1912, Honolulu was in polynesia, but now it's in the state od Hawaii.

The three largest states in 1912 were, in order of size, Texas, California, and Montana.  That's no longer true.

How could you possiblt get Geography #3 wrong?

The organ of circulation used to be a Hammond B3, with a Leslie.  Made ir REALLY easy to move your feet.

 

Lancasrer, PA activelt goes after truants, and billboaerds warned that it's an $831 fine when you're caught, in 2009.

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2015/08/17 - 1:13am

The answer to History #1 now had better be "Indians, Chinese, Indians, Indians" and not whatever they were looking for in 1912. Likewise History #3 had better not name any white people.

Last battle of the War of 1812 may be a trick question. The Battle of New Orleans is generally considered part of that war, but was fought after the agreement ending the war had been signed; the news just hadn't reached them yet.

I wonder if they gave extra credit for people who noticed the spelling errors in the question (dodr, secrate, Rawleigh, assasinated, and among the spelling section itself (!) eneeavor).

deaconB
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2015/08/17 - 9:59am

The proper spelling of Sir Walter Raleigh was flexible, just as the proper spelling of William Shakespeare was.  My grandfather was named after him, and his parents spelled it Rily.  His wife has Betty on her birth certiificate, but she told people her name was Betsy, and when her mother's family bible turned up, her birth was recorded as Betsy.

I know a family named Hyman, except that when one of the boys married, the story is that his new wife thought that it would be classier if it was spelled Heymann.  Before the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act, changing your name was a right under the Common Law (and I think the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act is unconstitutional under the 9th Amendment), and it was pretty easy - you walk into the Social Security office, said you name was now different, and you swapped your old SS card for a new one, then used it (if necessary) to change everything else.

Robert
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2015/08/17 - 11:05am

Just as facts are more interesting than fictions, might not the same be said of the past relative to the extant?

This news piece and likes of it you can spend all day looking up:   (I like the sound of "fully 20%"  )

Prof. Chas. Bridwell, who has just
begun his work as truant officer and
school supervisor for Bullitt County is
helping "boost" the attendance fully
20%. He has been successful in urging
attendance of pupils who have never
gone before. In fact, one family just
started three children for their first
time, the oldest 15 years and all in the
same grade.  

But 20% must've been more challenging for the scores from his test, if it was ever implemented on a serious basis at all.

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2015/08/18 - 2:17pm

Heimhenge said
Interesting, thanks. Damn, do they even have truant officers anymore?

Back in the very early sixties, in ninth grade I played football on the freshman team. One day I had to leave practice because of severe abdominal pain. The next morning I got a call from the man (universally and genuinely feared) who was the "attendance office [sic]" – he wasn't called a truant officer – to find out why I wasn't in school. I told him that I was waiting for my mom to take me to the doctor to find out if I needed an appendectomy (I did). He told me, "Well, if you wanna play in today's game you gotta be in school at least half a day." In fairness, I should say that his other job with the school district was as high school wrestling coach in a school where wrestling was the prestige sport, even over football, which was huge. I doubt that any of his squad would have dared miss a meet for a little thing like appendicitis.

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2015/08/19 - 12:30am

Tromboniator said: ... wrestling was the prestige sport, even over football, which was huge.

May I ask, sir, where in this country (even in the 60s) was wrestling ever "bigger than football" ??? Maybe you had a home-town grappler that made it to the Olympics? Otherwise, football has been the "prestige" sport for quite some time now. MLB gave it a run for awhile, but then shot itself in the foot.

List of the top 10 most popular sports here: http://sporteology.com/top-10-most-popular-sports-in-america/11/

And wrestling comes in #8 on that list, but its Pro Wrestling ... not real wrestling.

deaconB
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2015/08/19 - 9:03am

In Indiana, Basketball is THE presatige high school sport, not Football.  It's not called "Hoosier Hysteria" for nothing. John Wooden came from Mooresville.  Larry Bird from French Lick.  Adolph Rupp was from Baja Indiana.  Tony Hinkle invented the orange basketball at Butler. The NBA was invented over Fred Zollner's kitchen table in Fort Wayne.   And, of course, McDonald's gave away copies of "Hoosiers", the movie about the 1954 "miracle" team from Milan.  When Bobby Knight became a fugitive from Puerto Rican justice, there were calls, only slightly in jest, that he be elected state governor. 

 

Back to the original question.  Google "parts of speech" and google presents a definition that says In English the main parts of speech are noun, pronoun, adjective, determiner, verb, adverb, preposition, conjunction, and interjection.  I don't think "determiner" was a part of speech in 1912.  In fact, I don't think it was a part of speech in the 1950s or 1960s.  I think "articles" were. And what about gerunds?  Weren't they parts of speech?

I seem to recall my spinster 8th-grade english teacher telling us there are 8 parts of speech, but I can no longer reel them off.  Sorry, Miss Young.  Obviously, noun, verb, adjective, adverb, preposition, conjunction, and interjection, but I don't recall the 8th.  Or maybe there were eleven, which would allow for article, gerund, and, uh, something else.

I had thought that expletives deserved to be their own part of speech, rather than being lumped in with interjection, as there were several people whose masterful cursing impressed me, but I now know better.  Although I knew this guy in college who could string together words, each acceptable individually, that painted a disgusting picture. 

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