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"Flabbergast" noun form?
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2012/09/06 - 11:17am

On the fourth round of edits for my upcoming novel, I wanted to add a sentence where my protagonist expresses extreme shock at someone else's use of language:

I couldn't get a word in through all my surprise at her choice of language.

Considering "surprise" to be far too light I took a trip to my handy thesaurus and found one of my favorite words listed as a synonym: "flabbergast." But when I tried to form a "state of being" noun form by adding "-ness" to the past participle form, MS Word flagged it. Apparently, "flabbergastedness" isn't in its dictionary, and searches failed to turn up any other resource (other than Urban Dictionary) that listed the word.

So what is the proper word here? I can think of three possibilities, but they all seem so artificial:

  • Flabbergastment
  • Flabbergastity
  • Flabbergastion

Any ideas?

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2012/09/06 - 11:56am

Hi Pab, and welcome to the forum!

First, don't let MS Word tell you what's valid or not. It often flags perfectly legitimate words. Some MSW versions are better than others. Ultimately, you need to refer to a "real" dictionary to know for sure.

To answer your question, I believe the word you're looking for is flabbergastation. (Spell check just flagged that, so I told it to add it to my dictionary.)

Here's one link to an online source:   http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Flabbergastation

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2012/09/06 - 12:00pm

That seemed a little odd to me. I had forgotten about "-ation" as a suffix unto itself. When I read your post it seemed like a form of the verb "to flabbergastate" (like "gestation" from "to gestate" and so on) instead.

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2012/09/06 - 1:46pm

The Oxford English Dictionary lists 'flabbergast' as a noun (as well as a verb) and gives a citation from 1831. I would like:

I couldn't get a word in through all my flabbergast at her choice of language.

better than all the other choices mentioned.

Emmett

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2012/09/06 - 3:32pm

Thanks Emmett. As I've said many times, I learn new words on this forum all the time. If the OED lists flabbergast as a noun, I'd say go with Pab. Simpler is always better, and truth be told, I was surprised to find flabbergastation online. Pab, you might have your readers scrambling for a dictionary, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

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2012/09/06 - 6:05pm

Heimhenge, you might want to reconsider your thanks after you read this post, but I still stand by my editing of Pab's sentence.

I re-read the OED entries and flabbergastation was there too with the right definition for the word. Flabbergast as a noun means bombast, but that meaning is noted as rare. Since it is so rare, I would expect that a modern reader would assume flabbergast to have the meaning Pab intends.

I am sorry if some readers think this is too creative use of the language but its users have been verbing nouns and nouning verbs for a long time. I still like its use in Pab's sentence.

Emmett

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2012/09/06 - 8:34pm

There is no good way other than restructure to fit flabbergasted in.

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2012/09/06 - 10:36pm

I agree with Heimhenge about MS Spell Check; it's a fine tool and occasionally it knows how to spell words I miss, but I rarely hesitate to override its judgement when it says I've invented a word it never heard of, or when it's heard of the word but disagrees with my spelling.

I've never tried for the noun form of "flabbergasted", myself, but oddly enough when I thought about it and before I read the responses, I decided I'd plump for "flabbergast" as the noun as well as the verb.   Guess I can't be wrong all the time.

I don't think there's anything actually wrong with "flabbergastation", but I have Pam's instinctive objection to treating it as though the verb were "flabbergastate".   I strongly suspect that's just a personal preference, though.

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2012/09/07 - 10:59am

If you need a noun form, and no convenient one exists, then perhaps you should dive in headlong by coining the gasting of my flabber.

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2012/09/07 - 11:09am

HA! I like that coinage, Glenn.

And you know, when I read/speak the word flabbergastation (which is really kind of an ugly word), I can't help thinking about "a place where you take your flabber to fill up its tank."

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2012/09/07 - 12:26pm

I couldn't get a word in through all her gasting of my flabber with her choice of language.

Talk about self-referential!

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2012/09/07 - 12:46pm

On a more serious note, have you considered other thesaurus entries for surprise? Depending on the nuance of the surprise and flabbergastation, you could employ, for example, astonishment, amazement, incredulity, shock, wonderment, discombobulation, perplexity, befuddlement, stupefaction, etc.

There is also a noun form of nonplus -- nonplus.

And why are we tied to a noun here?
I couldn't get a word in, flabbergasted at her choice of language.

Of course I prefer to go the extra mile:
I couldn't voice a sound, flabbergasted at her choice of words and flummoxed by her grammar.

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