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If someone calls you dibby, should you be flattered or insulted? You'd know if you were in college a century ago—it's outdated college slang! Also, we are voluntold to play a word puzzle about Unknown Superheroes!

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What do we call it when new inventions or ideas change the name of something old? It used to be that the word guitar was sufficient, but now we regularly distinguish between an acoustic guitar and an electric guitar. Same for television, a word that sufficed until we started saying color television to distinguish it from the earlier black-and-white version. What's the word for such terms? We know you can't wait: it's retronym.

A Cincinnati man says that at the non-profit where he works, he often hears the word voluntold. It comes up when someone is volunteered by someone else to do some task, rather than volunteering themselves. Does this term for involuntary volunteering have military origins?

You're the apple of my eye is an ancient term of endearment. Martha explains the connections between apples, eyes, and other precious things.

We share a listener's email about nicknames for the city of Vancouver, Canada. How about Word-couver?

Quiz Guy John Chaneski is a huge fan of comic books featuring superheroes like Superman and Spider-Man. Lo and behold, John claims he's discovered a whole treasure trove of Heretofore Unnamed Superheroes, and invites us to guess their names. What do you call the doughty superhero who can take any food item that is past its expiration date, send it back through time, and make it edible again? Need a clue? His mild-mannered alter ego is in his first year at NYU.

An Oakland man is curious about a queasy-making phrase: a face that could gag a maggot off a gutwagon. What's a gutwagon? How's it used? Why is it used? Yech!

Go fly a kite! A caller from Washington, D.C. wonders whose kite is getting flown and why. Naturally, we have some ideas! Here's a copy of the cartoon Grant mentions (from the Chicago Tribune May 15, 1927, p. G2):

A San Diego caller says he's noticed that his high-school grandson and his buddies habitually refer to each other only by their last names, but his granddaughter says she and her own friends never do. Is this just a teenage guy thing? The book that Grant recommends here is A Dictionary of Epithets and Terms of Address by Leslie Dunkling.

Martha shares the oodles of listeners' emails responding to a caller seeking a better word than retiree to describe himself and his wife. How about pre-tiree? Or jubilant?

This week's Slang This! contestant is from Boston. She shares a slang phrase making the rounds among her friends at MIT: find your pants. She then tries to guess the meaning of the slang term boilover and the obscure word nycthemeron.

Is it toward or towards? Forward or forwards? Do they differ in American English and British English? A Seattle listener wants to know.

A California caller is puzzled as to why the prefix un- seems to function in two entirely different ways in the terms undone and unmarried.

If you were raised in North Dakota like our caller, you might wonder about a phrase you heard growing up: It's a horse apiece. It means something like six of one, half a dozen of the other. She is curious about the origin of the horse phrase and whether it's a regional expression.


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I meant to share this poem related to the call about “a horse apiece.” Its from Prairie Breezes, a collection of stories and poems published by James W. Foley in 1905.

A Horse Trade Hello! says I. Hello! says he. I never see th man afore. Swap? says I. Dunno, says he,Mebbe, mebbe—I aint shore. Th bay? says I. Th gray? says he. Swap! says we, an both unhitched. Fine horse, says I. O course, says he,An in a minute we had switched. Git up! says I. Git up! says he. An both them horses stood stock still! Balk? says I. Yep! says he. Mine too! s I, laughin fit to kill. Say! says I. Hey? says he. Guess thats horse apiece, says we. Good day! says I. Good day! says he. Best joke, b gosh, I ever see!


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The Ashes are a cricket trophy, I think, not rugby.


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I have often been accused of being a pedant so I see no reason to stop now.

“The Ashes” is the perpetual trophy for England-Australia cricket test series. In 1882, for the first time, England was beaten in cricket on home soil. A notice was placed in the newspaper; “In affectionate remembrance of English cricket, deeply lamented by a large circle of sorrowing friends and acquaintances. R.I.P. NB. The body will be cremated and the ashes taken to Australia”. Every since England-Australia cricket teams have competed for the ashes. There is an actual small urn of ashes.

BUT…, most England-Australia sporting competitions use the term “ashes” even though they have their own official name and trophy.

Now for the pedantic bit. Grant referred to the 1970 series between Great Britain and Australia being Rugby. There are two different games, that Australia plays, with Rugby in the name. “Rugby”, by itself usually refers to Rugby Union but the 1970 series was Rugby League. Great Britain plays Rugby League, while England, Scotland, Wales etc play Rugby Union.

You had a “Rugby” referee on your show a few weeks back. He said that there were 15 players on each side, so he is a Rugby Union referee; Rugby League has 13 players per side. The games are similar but definitely not the same.

Neither of these games should be confused with Australia Rules Football which is played on an oval shaped field and has 18 players on each side.


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Oy, Rick. I had no idea! Me, I'm not sporting man. So that's why BBC has coverage of the Rugby League Ashes Series, then?


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