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Hello all!
 
I have a big problem with the way we write and pronounce academic degrees in the English Language.  
 
Bachelor's, Master's, Doctor's Degree.  
 
I tend to believe these are all wrong. As I am currently attending Chatham in pursuit of a Master of Science degree in Counseling Psychology. Where did this Bachelor's and Master's degrees come from? Who are these Bachelors and Masters that we are taking degrees from?  
 
Instances: In American  martial arts, when you reach 1st dan, you become a 'Master of Basics', when you reach  4th dan, you become a 'Master Sensei'. You get a master black belt, not a Master's Black belt.
 
I have heard people mistake a similar term, they would say "I have a Sniper's Rifle" Rather than: " I have a Sniper Rifle", the first implying that you have a rifle belonging to a person who is a Sniper. Versus, You have a rifle that is used for Sniping.  
I would tend to think the same is applied for degrees, you have a Master's degree, implying you took a degree from a master.  
 
This has driven me up the wall. I believe, the correct way to say the degrees are "I have a Master degree, I have a bachelor degree, I have a Doctor Degree or Doctorate.  
 
Can you guys help me out with this one?
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I think the idea is that the degree belongs to the person who earned it, therefore it is a bachelor's degree, etc. because the person who currently owns it is a bachelor.   The rifle would be treated similarly if the person who acquired it and now owns it is a sniper.   If it was acquired for a collection or some other purpose, perhaps sniper rifle would be more appropriate.   I would be quicker to criticize the terminology of martial arts except that I personally believe that either terminology would be correct.

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I think you're taking the "possessiveness" of the possessive form too narrowly. When you earn a bachelor's or master's degree you are not taking it away from anyone, it's yours. You become the bachelor or master who holds it, so it's your master's degree, the degree of a master. A sniper's rifle is one designed for a sniper. Not necessarily a particular sniper, any old one will do. If a shirt is designed for a woman we don't call it a woman shirt, it's a woman's shirt, whether or not a woman owns it.

The conventions of martial arts may very well be different from academic usages, so if you receive a master black belt it doesn't mean that it's wrong to receive a master's degree. Language and traditions vary.

 

Edit: Hi, Dick, you nosed me out!

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Interesting question.   If we're thinking of the genitive as denoting possession, the ending is on the wrong word.   We say John has a doctor's degree, but in fact the degree belongs to John.   It is John's degree.   John didn't borrow it from some unnamed doctor who really owns it!

 

The phrase must come from a loose adjectival sense of the genitive, not a possessive sense.   John has a degree typical OF a doctor or a degree expected OF a doctor.

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I would contend that both "Bachelor's degree" and "Bachelor degree" are incorrect.

If the college issues you a certificate declaring you a Bachelor of Science or a Bachelor

of Arts, then what you have is a Baccalaureate degree.

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