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When is it OK to make a compound noun solid?
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2009/07/10 - 7:58pm

My spell-check balked at "bootprint," which I thought an obvious corollary to "footprint."

That is, if a bare foot leaves a footprint, a booted foot obviously leaves a bootprint.

Alas, three dictionaries have failed to back me up on this, although NASA does, referring to its image of the print left by Buzz Aldrin's boot as a "bootprint."

What do you think? Can I close up this compound, or should I keep it open?

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2009/07/11 - 10:14am

Kristen,

I think you can do whatever you want--just be firm in your convictions.

My conviction is that my spell checker is pretty stupid.

Emmett

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2009/07/11 - 12:58pm

Ditto on spelling and grammar checkers.

My favorite counter-example was when a spelling and gammar checker, which will go nameless, but is associated with a giant software company and one of the richest men in the word, insisted that "doing good for all people" should be "doing well for all people."

I try to live by the "doing good" philosophy, but others, it is very clear, are committed to the "doing well" philosophy.

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2009/07/12 - 10:39am

Alas, three dictionaries have failed to back me up on this, although NASA does

You go girl! Sometimes you gotta push beyond the stodgy envelope of dictionaries and be a part of language evolution. But keep in mind that you can't always count on NASA as a reliable language reference. After all, they are the ones who gave us "that's one small step for man; one giant leap for mankind."

There must be a lot of bootprints in boot camps.

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2009/07/12 - 3:04pm

I heard Armstrong live, and it always bothered me when folks changed his words to include the "a." Clearly the statement with the "a" shows greater rhetorical structure (OK. Without the "a" it makes almost no sense.). Recently I stumbled on the transcript from NASA with its discussion of this very topic:
NASA transcript

I feel much better now.

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2009/07/12 - 6:05pm

Thanks guys. I never meant to imply that I trust a spell-checker. But when it raises a question, I always double-check. Or triple-check. I'm too stodgy myself to go around inventing compounds willy-nilly.

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2009/07/12 - 8:44pm

There's a WWII memoir titled Bootprints, too. I think you're safe on this one.

And Glenn, Armstrong's line doesn't bother me. I just remember that the teachers at school and all my classmates were trying to figure it out. This was way before you could get instant answers on Google (even before calculators!), and apparently none of us was bright enough to figure out that it made perfect sense adding an 'a'. Or, maybe we were too polite to consider the possibility that Armstrong could have made a mistake.

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2009/07/13 - 5:42am

Actually, I would have preferred “This is a small step for one man, and a giant leap for mankind.” I guess that's what happens when a(n) historic event goes unscripted. Now we know better.

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2009/07/13 - 10:50am

If we had the internet back then, and the Way With Words forum, and if NASA and Armstrong had come to us for advice, I'm sure we could have helped them improve the first words spoken by a man on the moon. Or, maybe we would have suggested that Ham the Astrochimp should have been first to set foot, babbling eloquently for all humanity.

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