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Ten of? Quarter of?
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2012/06/02 - 11:21am

Does anyone know why people answer the question of what time it is by saying "it's ten of eight" (if it's 7:50) or "it's quarter of eight" (if it's 7:45)? Canadians and Brits tend to say that it's "ten to", or "quarter to". I recently had a guest from Armenia who asked why we say "of" instead of "to"  and I couldn't come up with any explanation.  

 

While we're at it, is saying "ten of" a US-wide usage  or is it regional? (I'm in New England.)  

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2012/06/02 - 12:08pm

You can see a discussion of this subject here:

"https://waywordradio.org/discussion/topics/why-do-auctioneers-talk-so-fast-full-episode/?value=quarter%20of&type=1&include=1&search=1&ret=all"

You will have to cut and paste this without the quotes.   I have a hard time making links.

Raffee
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2012/06/03 - 4:24am

Well, to me it seems this way,

It's (as if you take) 10 of 8!;-)

EmmettRedd
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2012/06/03 - 3:21pm

Dick said:

You can see a discussion of this subject here:

"https://waywordradio.org/discussion/topics/why-do-auctioneers-talk-so-fast-full-episode/?value=quarter%20of&type=1&include=1&search=1&ret=all"

You will have to cut and paste this without the quotes.   I have a hard time making links.

Here is the link.

Robert
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2012/06/03 - 4:37pm

This shows how to make the little link.

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2012/06/04 - 6:47am

I would guess that the origin of "a quarter of eight" is "it lacks a quarter of eight".   Even if that's not the origin, you can think of the one as short for the other to help you make sense of it.

Raffee
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2012/06/04 - 12:16pm

Yes, Bob. That's exactly what I meant.

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2012/06/04 - 5:20pm

Thanks, all!! This was fabulous. I'm thrilled to have found this site. Where have you all been all my life?

Robert
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2012/06/04 - 6:20pm

Texas, I hear mostly the 'of' form. Some 'til'.
'Of' could be eggcorn from '10 off 8' or short for '10 off of 8' . Don't know.
Now the 'to' seems only used in the short form '10 to' period just like that (same as your Canadian, Brit).
Never hear that short form with 'of' or 'til'.

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2012/06/04 - 8:47pm

To, till or of--I use all three forms.   I don't use of that frequently, as over the years that's the one people seem to understand the least.   Quarter to 8, quarter till 8, quarter of 8.   All the same thing.

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