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2012/03/04 - 6:56pm

When did the latino population start calling their kids "mami" and "papi"? It seems I started hearing it about ten or so years ago. I grew up next door to a Mexican family and I don't remember this usage (I am 58).  

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2012/03/13 - 3:43am

I lived close to a Puerto Rican family in Indiana, in the late 1970s, who used these terms of endearment, so it is not recent and must be wide spread through the latino culture.

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2012/03/13 - 4:50am

It is certainly common practice in New York City for store clerks to use it with their regulars. I've only heard it used in addressing adults. I think that the clerk's not knowing the name of the customer — or having too many names to recall — contributes to its ubiquity.

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2012/03/13 - 8:09am

Several people in my wife's family, who are of Mexican descent, call their children "mamasita" and "papasito."   It often gets shortened to "mama" and "papa."   I hear it more and more, but I can't say when it started, since my exposure to the culture prior to the last two decades was limited.

 

It seems to be used more when the child is an infant or toddler, and used less as the child ages.   I've found with my children that as they start to respond to their own names, I call them more by their own names and less by nicknames or other terms of endearment.   The "mama" and "papa" terms seem to follow the same pattern.

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2012/03/15 - 8:20pm

Very much as Anglo children (at least north of the Mason-Dixon line) grow up calling their parents "Mommy" and "Daddy", and graduate to "Mom" and "Dad" at some point—at about the same point, in fact, that their parents switch from calling him "Bobby" to "Bob", and at which birthday cards addressed to him switch from "Master Robert Bridges" to "Mister Robert Bridges".   In the Southeast, it's much more common for adults to go on calling themselves "Bobby" and their fathers as "Daddy".   I don't recall "Mommy" continuing into adulthood even in the South.

Strictly as a nitpick, I don't believe "mamasita" is shortened to "mama"; rather "mama" is the base form and "mamasita" is the expanded affectionate version, as "Juanito" is the affectionate or diminutive form of "Juan".

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2012/03/19 - 5:41am

Where those sounds are for babes, what goes for parents?  

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2012/03/19 - 7:35am

Bob Bridges said:

 I don't recall "Mommy" continuing into adulthood even in the South.

Not Mommy, but Momma is the rule in Texas and I believe throughout the South.

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2012/03/19 - 12:09pm

I remember the first time I used "mom" instead of "mommy" (I think around 7-8 grade), and my mom reacted with surprise saying something like "Well when did we grow up?" But she accepted it, as did "dad." This was in the Midwest. Nonetheless, in contradiction to Bob's observation, she continued to call me "Danny" instead of "Dan" for many years after that.

Funny, but about a year ago, when I called her, I used the term "mammy." She didn't like that at all, and told me in no uncertain terms. But then, her generation knew Al Jolson as a performer, so maybe it was a racist thing. I should probably mention that she and I are white. Of course, so was Al Jolson (but she didn't realize "black-face" was "in" back then). But it still bothered her.

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2012/03/21 - 8:22pm

Heimhenge said:

....This was in the Midwest. Nonetheless, in contradiction to Bob's observation, she continued to call me "Danny" instead of "Dan" for many years after that.

Well, you gotta cut moms some slack on that sort of thing. :-)

RobertB said:

Where those sounds are for babes, what goes for parents?  

What do you mean, RobertB?   What are you asking?

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2012/03/22 - 1:31am

"mami" and "papi" sound closed to the sounds for parents, so don't those dads and moms need some different sounds for themselves?

Also, I wonder if "mami" and "papi"   reflect some wishes that kids grow up fast to become parents themselves.

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