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It's the business of business jargon. Say you're in line at the drugstore. Does it bother you if the cashier says, "Next guest"? In department stores and coffeeshops, does the term "guest" suggest real hospitality—or just an annoying edict from corporate headquarters? And speaking of buzzwords, has your boss adopted the trendy term "cadence"? Also: words made up to define emotions, like "intaxication." That's the euphoria you get when you receive your tax refund--that is, until you remember it was your money to begin with.
This episode first aired June 29, 2013.
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The Emotionary
Emotions can be hard to define. That's why there's The Emotionary, a collection of words made up specifically to capture emotions in a single word, like "intaxication"-- the euphoria of getting a tax refund--until you realize the money was yours to start with.
Going Over vs. Going Over To
Jeff from Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California, wants to know if he's wrong to say, I'm going over Martha's house, meaning "I'm going over to Martha's house." He's always left out the word to from that phrase. His wife argues that he's implying that he's going to fly over the person's house. The expression going over, as opposed to going over to, is a case of locative prepositional deletion, which occurs when we take out a preposition when talking about direction or destination. This particular version sometimes occurs in Massachusetts, where, as it happens, Jeff grew up.
Japanese Banking Pun
So you think you hate puns? Wait until you hear this item from a Singapore newspaper about a Japanese banking crisis.
Every Tub On Its Own Bottom
Every tub on its own bottom suggests that every person or entity in a group should be self-sufficient. This idiom, often abbreviated to ETOB, is common in academic speech to mean that each department or school should be responsible for raising its own funds. But the phrase goes back at least 400 years, when a tub meant the cask or barrel for wine. The metaphor of a tub on its own bottom appears in religious texts from the 1600s, referring to a foundation to which one should adhere.
Just O.K. Quiz
Our Quiz Guy John Chaneski shares a game called Just O.K. Take a word, add the letters "O" and "K", then transpose the letters to form a new word. For example, what froggy word could you form by adding an O and a K to the word car?
Anyhoo
The terms anyhoo, or anywho, signaling a conversational transition, are simply variants of anyhow, and originated in Ireland.
The Judge Wants To Spit
A listener shares a family expression to quiet kids down so the parents can speak.
Business Buzzword Cadence
If your boss drives you crazy with the word cadence, you're not alone. This business buzzword, referring to steady, efficient scheduling, was popularized in the 90s after IBM published a paper about sales called Chaos to Cadence. And you know how synergistic the business world is-sooner or later, everyone will be utilizing it!
Wide-Awake Hats
Those soft felt hats that folks like the guy on the Quaker oatmeal box wear? They're called wide-awakes. The etymology of this term is actually a pun--a reference to the fact that they're made out of smooth material that has no nap!
Evolution of "Dope"
What exactly is dope? Over time, it's meant marijuana, heroin, steroids, butter, coffee, drugs given to racehorses, and myriad other substances affecting the recipient in some excitable way. The term didn't come to mean marijuana until the '40s, and if you were born before 1970s, chances are you'd think stoned means drunk.
Faulty Language Selection
Amanda Kruel from Knoxville, Tennessee, wrote to say that ten years after learning French, she was studying German and her mind would jump from German to French, instead of English, when she was at a loss for a word. This is known as faulty language selection, and it happens to a lot of polyglots. A Florida community-college professor blogging at Sarah on Sabbatical has a nice roundup of research on the topic. She relates her own experience of working in a hotel in Bavaria and not being able to translate to French for some tourists, even though she spoke French.
Addicting vs. Addictive
What's the difference between addicting and addictive? Not much, although addictive is the older term. Grant suggests that addicting is more about a quality of the person being affected, whereas if something's addictive, that's an inherent property of the substance itself. So if you can't log off of Netflix, you'd say that Netflix is addicting.
Feignderstand
When you have to ask someone to repeat themselves three times and you still can't figure out what they're saying, you may as well feignderstand, or pretend to understand. It's yet another made-up term from The Emotionary.
Customers, Patrons, and Guests
Jerry from New York City is annoyed that clerks in his local drug store and coffee shop baristas refer to him not as a customer, or a patron, but as a guest. He thinks guest sounds contrived, and should be reserved for hoteliers and the like. Well, Disney's been using guest since the 70s, and more and more businesses are following suit.
Floptimism
Need a word for the cheerful but futile advice one offers despite knowing that the recipient's efforts might not pan out? Try floptimism.
Goody's Moose
Mike from St. Augustine, Florida, wants to know about a family expression quicker than Goody's moose. It's actually a variation of "quicker than Moody's goose," which in turn comes from a 19th Irish saying involving a "Mooney's goose." No one's sure who Mooney was.
Irish Miser Saying
Here's a traditional Irish saying about someone who's cheap: He'd skin a louse and send the hide and fat to market.
This episode is hosted by Martha Barnette and Grant Barrett, and produced by Stefanie Levine.
Photo by waferboard. Used under a Creative Commons license.
Music Used in the Broadcast
| Title | Artist | Album | Label |
|---|---|---|---|
| Togetherness | Jungle By Night | Hidden | Kindred Spirits |
| Gallowstreet 34 | Jungle By Night | Hidden | Kindred Spirits |
| Cyclin' | Jungle By Night | Hidden | Kindred Spirits |
| Cantaloupe Island | Herbie Hancock | Empyrean Isles | Blue Note |
| E.T. | Jungle By Night | Get Busy | Kindred Spirits |
| Maiden Voyage | Herbie Hancock | Maiden Voyage | Blue Note |
| Hot Mama Hot | Jungle By Night | Jungle By Night | Kindred Spirits |
| Get Busy | Jungle By Night | Get Busy | Kindred Spirits |
| Bokoor | Jungle By Night | Hidden | Kindred Spirits |
| Let's Call The Whole Thing Off | Ella Fitzgerald | Ella Fitzgerald Sings The George and Ira Gershwin Song Book | Verve |
In the early 1970s, 'dope' among the young people I knew meant opiates; however, due to derision of authorities' claiming that marijuana were the equivalent of heroin, people started using 'dope' ironically (in the best-honed sense of that word, as well as in today's more usual sense of 'satirically'), as in 'Yes, Dad, I smoke a joint every couple of months, I'm a huge Dope Fiend.'.
I forget if it were mentioned in the segment, but 'doping' was the application of a substance to the fabric wings of the original æroplanes, so calling 'airplane glue' for model kits 'dope' were natural, and that cement's use to get high the subject of yet another overblown drugs-scare in the 1950s and '60s.
Somewhere, I'd guess in the book "For God, country, and Coca-Cola", I've read that in some places early imbibers of Atlantan Courage called it 'dope'; if true, that would place the 'drugs' sense of the word at or around the time of the first powered flight.
I've never heard anyone outside our family call it that, but we've called Hershey chocolate syrup "chocolate dope" since before WWII. To a lesser degree, we've used "dope" to refer to other sticky, high-poise liquids, including not only other ice cream toppings (but not pancake syrup or white or brown Karo) but non-edible fluids as well. One dopes mechanical parts with a lubricant, applies a thick protective coating (similar to paint, only thick) or dopes silage with molasses to seal it and protect the nutritional values from deterioration.
Doping fabric wings on an early airplane would seem to be of similar usage, and I presume with no evidence whatsoever, that our family for that usage the same place early aviators got it.
They say the US and UK are two nations divided by a common language, but the US doesn't have a language, it has hundreds of them!
I seem to recall that when I started college in the mid-60s dope invariably referred to marijuana (if not to the aircraft variety, rare in college). In about 1968 or so the Furry Freak Brothers comics appeared, with a focus on marijuana, and introduced deep philosophy like: "Dope'll get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope." Opiates were nearly unknown on our campus.
Peter
Hi, this is Sarah from Sarah on Sabbatical (the blog that you referenced above). Thank you for reading and including my post in your article 
Here is a direct link to the article on language acquisition for anyone who would like to read the full article: http://sarahonsabbatical.blogspot.com/2013/05/a-strange-form-of-speaking-notes-on.html
Airplane dope (from at least WW-I, for the woozy feeling from prolonged use) was originally cellulose acetate. I was used to fill in the space between threads in fabric- covered aircraft, and to a slight degree to shrink it for a smooth surface. It had even a greater effect on model surfaces, using a rice paper. However, model engine fuel (methanol, castor oil, and nitromethane} had ill effects on the paint and was replaced with cellulose butylrate (also called dope, or specifically fuel-proof dope). That was quickly superseded by mylar plastic literally ironed on with a miniature flatiron and then shrunk with a hair dryer. No dopey feeling at all.
Guests: I am bugged by most familiarisms in marketing. Particularly Italian Garden's "You're like one of the family" slogans. You invite relatives over for dinner and then charge them for it? It's a business deal; do it with reciprocal courtesy and honesty, but don't try to make it more than that.
Goody's Moose is obviously a Spoonerism of Moody's Goose, probably first used comedically, and then understood to be the proper form.
Grant kept talking of each one has to stand on his own bottom. All I could think of during that segment was "That's strange." In the great lakes states, we stand on principal or on our feet, but we sit on our bottoms Barrels and drums are set so that they sit on end as well.
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