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"is is" as in "My hope is is that..."
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2009/07/24 - 9:57am

I have noticed people are frequently saying "is is" in the middle of sentences now. I first noticed it when President Obama used it, but now that I'm aware of it, I hear it from others too. Since I pay more attention to the President I have more examples from him.
"What I would say is is that..." Obama 7/10/09 from L'aOuila Italy
"My hope is is that..."
"My suspition is is that..." Obama 7/23/09
I listen carefully, and there is no pause between the "Is"s. They aren't appearing at the beginning of a break and then when the speaker starts to talk again after gathering his thoughts. They run right together. What is is up with that? Comment?

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2009/07/24 - 10:37am

I've been noticing it for many, many years. It most often seems to be just before the word "that". “The thing is is that … ” I've chalked it up to a verbal tic. It seems to happen when people are distracted or their thoughts are racing ahead of their words. I've never seen it in writing, and when you point it out, the person usually denies it. I've never met anyone who thought it was right, but it is very, very common.

It's like “a whole nother” way of looking at the world. Speed of information seems to have become more important than clarity of form or content. Perhaps this is a side effect of our technology.

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2009/07/24 - 11:03am

Over at Language Log, Mark Liberman suggested that it's "the result of a non-standard conception of English grammar, rather than just a faulty implementation of standard English grammar".

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2009/07/24 - 11:34am

Wow. Anthony Parsons does it multiple times AND in writing in one of the linked discussions. Cool!

Thanks dilettante for the excellent link. He makes a convincing argument. I must revise my opinion about the whole "is is" thing.

So, now, what do you think about discussing "a whole nother" topic?

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2009/07/24 - 5:33pm

I think it's a timing thing that is used to build up to something of importance that is about to be said. The extra “is” could be replaced by silence, The word “uh”, or anything else. A delay caused by an extra “is” as if gathering thoughts (but not), provides enough time to build a perception that something important (and thoughtful) is about to be said.

That's my theory & I'm stickin' to it.

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2009/08/04 - 7:35am

I had never thought about this until I saw it here; now I am hearing it everywhere. I was listening to a sermon on the radio yesterday, by a man I hear all the time, and I realized he must have said, "The truth is, is that..." or similar phrases, at least five times in half an hour!

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2009/08/04 - 12:49pm

I have a strong aversion to this and find that it sticks out like a sore thumb.

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