Home » Discussion Forum—A Way with Words, a fun radio show and podcast about language

Discussion Forum—A Way with Words, a fun radio show and podcast about language

A Way with Words, a radio show and podcast about language and linguistics.

Discussion Forum (Archived)

Please consider registering
Guest
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Min search length: 3 characters / Max search length: 84 characters
The forums are currently locked and only available for read only access
sp_TopicIcon
How are you?-How are you?
Guest
1
2013/04/13 - 1:03am

In Strout's new novel a renown attorney falls from grace, settles as a college instructor in Upstate New York, thereat he learns this piece of social etiquette for the first time in his life: For when meeting new people, the correct greetings are 'How are you?' and  'How are you?' right back; and 'Nice to meet you' is no good - will shake heads that you are either being vulgar or an ignorant bumpkin.

 
Even with this man in hopeless mental turmoil when he reveals this information, it sounds like the author means it to be a representation based on facts. Is it true?
 
All I know is both character and author grew up in Maine, so clearly it's a not-Maine thing.
Guest
2
2013/04/13 - 12:30pm

There is no "official" greeting in English. Whether meeting someone for the first time, or meeting an old friend, or meeting a relative, greetings are all over the spectrum. From casual to formal, you'll hear an interesting mix. There are some regional conventions ... for example, here in Arizona, "Howdy!" is popular. Never heard that when I lived in the Midwest (except in western movies).

The greeting "How are you?" is a rhetorical question to which the speaker doesn't expect a detailed answer. Nevertheless, I've often heard socially-challenged people respond with elaborate replies regarding health, finances, and whatever.

As a reply to "How are you?" it's also quite common to hear "I'm well, thank you. And you?" So it's sometimes used to "get the ball rolling" and progress to small-talk.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with "Nice to meet you!" I use that greeting myself.

EmmettRedd
859 Posts
(Offline)
3
2013/04/13 - 1:39pm

Heimhenge said

There are some regional conventions ... for example, here in Arizona, "Howdy!" is popular. Never heard that when I lived in the Midwest (except in western movies).

The late Minnie Pearl from the Grand Ole Opry always started her gig with a drawn out "Howdy!" Nashville is pretty close to Midwest if not in it.

In SW Missouri, "Howdy" is used quite often.

Guest
4
2013/04/14 - 3:15pm

I grew up in a little town in Wisconsin that's home to a small liberal arts college. Nearly thirty years ago, I was walking down a street that skirts the college. A young lady coming the other way, who was almost certainly a student so she could have been from anywhere, greeted me with a bright, cheery, "Howdy!" It certainly wasn't something I'd grown up hearing, so I was both shocked and amused. In fact, I was so tickled that I've been using it myself ever since. Short, friendly, folksy, "Howdy" can't be beat.

When I'm asked, "How are you?" I find it nonsensical to simply reply back, "How are you?" My sincere response is usually along the lines of, "Eh, not too bad." — like someone from Lake Wobegon.  

When I feel like creeping someone out, I like to say with maximum snobbishness/goulishness: "How do you dooo?"

EmmettRedd
859 Posts
(Offline)
5
2013/05/06 - 6:06pm

While again noticing "Howdy, EmmettRedd" in the black bar at the top of this page, I remembered this thread. It appears that "Howdy" is a WayWordRadioWide greeting--not one sequestered to some part of geography or cyberspace.

Emmett

Guest
6
2013/05/06 - 7:40pm

EmmettRedd said
While again noticing "Howdy, EmmettRedd" in the black bar at the top of this page, I remembered this thread. It appears that "Howdy" is a WayWordRadioWide greeting--not one sequestered to some part of geography or cyberspace.

Emmett

I thought they did it just for me.

 

EmmettRedd
859 Posts
(Offline)
7
2013/05/07 - 10:47am

Dick said

I thought they did it just for me.

 

"Howdy, Dick" IS just for you. 🙂

AnMa
67 Posts
(Offline)
8
2013/05/10 - 6:13am

I believe that greeting rituals can be considered markers for class or region.

For example, I recall reading that among upper-class English people, it is (or was) considered "proper" to respond to "How d'you do?" with "How d'you do?" when being introduced to someone for the first time, with neither person even attempting anything that took the form of a response to the question. Deviating from this form would mark a person as being from a different social class.

Forum Timezone: UTC -7
Show Stats
Administrators:
Martha Barnette
Grant Barrett
Moderators:
Grant Barrett
Top Posters:
Newest Members:
A Conversation with Dr Astein Osei
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 1
Topics: 3647
Posts: 18912

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 618
Members: 1268
Moderators: 1
Admins: 2
Most Users Ever Online: 1147
Currently Online:
Guest(s) 109
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Recent posts