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Hot Water Heaters
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2010/01/10 - 11:13pm

Why do some people insist on using the term 'hot water heater'? Hot water doesn't need heating. The correct term is 'water heater', without the 'hot' prefix. This really burns me up when I hear it.

EmmettRedd
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2010/01/11 - 10:52am

Ozarkers use a lot of redundancies. I can not think of too many right now, but do you know any old widow women?

Emmett

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2010/01/12 - 5:13pm

A person's perspective depends on the implied relationships involved. Water heater might be paraphrased as Heater of water. Hot water heater might rather be paraphrased as Heater for hot water.

It's not an uncommon construction for a noun phrase to contain the result of the action or even the final product in mind, i.e. X to make/produce Y. Some examples:

popcorn popper
tea kettle
candle mould
cake batter
pie filling
lightbulb
cookie sheet

hot water heater is another example of a noun phrase focused on the outcome, rather than the ingredient. Perhaps the emphasis on the product came about to distinguish between the heater that produces the house's hot tap water as opposed to the heater of water that heats the house through radiators.

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2010/01/14 - 11:35pm

but do you know any old widow women?

"I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee" - King James Bible.

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2010/01/14 - 11:37pm

Hot water heater

Here in Mexico it's called a boiler, even though there's something wrong with yours if it boils your water. Ironically, the "proper" Spanish term for it simply means water heater.

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2010/01/14 - 11:39pm

candle mould

Ew. I don't thinkk I'd light my candle if it had candle mould on it. To make candles I'd rather use a mold.

Grant Barrett
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2010/01/18 - 1:42pm

Look at it a little differently. A hot water heater is really heating hot water. The water is already hot but heat continues to be applied to it in order to maintain the heat.

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2010/01/18 - 6:48pm

Never thought of it that way Grant, but yeah. What a waste of energy. Get a tankless!

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