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Fast asleep
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2012/05/07 - 4:21pm

Hi,

What do you recon is the etymology of the phrase "fast asleep"? People who are asleep, aren't known for being particularly fast!

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2012/05/07 - 7:23pm

The meaning of fast as secure or hard to move is older than it meaning speedy.   I think it is probably going out of common usage but think of "color fast" or "fasten."   I think it is related in some way to being speedy but without looking it up, I can't think how it is.

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2012/05/10 - 2:05pm

John Hatch said:

Hi,

What do you recon is the etymology of the phrase "fast asleep"? People who are asleep, aren't known for being particularly fast!

I imagine it is related to secure as well. Like waterfast or colorfast.

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2012/05/19 - 12:00am

This of "tie it fast", or "make the boat fast to the piling".   Someone who is fast asleep is probably going to be difficult or impossible to waken.

Never thought of "fasten" before, though.

We also say "sound asleep", which is similar.

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