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2010/09/09 - 9:12pm

Bring v/s take.

I use "bring" and "come" together and I use "take" and "go" together. If a participant in the conversation is located at my destination,when speaking to them I am "coming" to where they are and anything that accompanies me, I would "bring".

If no one in the conversation is located at my destination,then I'm not "coming", I am going and anything that I drag along I "take".

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2011/03/30 - 1:01pm

dfilpus said:

Filking is a much broader that simply singing one song to another's tunes. It also covers song parodies and original music/words for the various genres of fantasy and science fiction.


Leslie Fish is a great filker. I particularly like Carmen Miranda's Ghost.

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2011/03/30 - 1:04pm

Glenn said:

I have a nominee for the "Let's eat Grandma" award for copy editing.

What about this magazine cover? I wanted to post it last week when I saw it, but there was no extant thread where it would fit. Now there is! 🙂

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2011/03/30 - 2:23pm

Avocet said:

Glenn said:

I have a nominee for the "Let's eat Grandma" award for copy editing.

What about this magazine cover? I wanted to post it last week when I saw it, but there was no extant thread where it would fit. Now there is!


Well, either the magazine corrected the cover in the archive, or this joke cover is a shoop!

Cover with oxford comma and all

[edit: added the following.]
The magazine even addresses the hoax:
Rachael Ray altered cover
So the joke cover is a hoax. I feel betrayed. Imagine, misinformation on the internet. What have we come to? Soon we won't even be able to trust Wikipedia.

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2011/03/30 - 3:08pm

Glenn said:

So the joke cover is a hoax.

Well, shoot. I thought it was hilarious. Now it's just moderately clever.

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2011/03/30 - 7:25pm

Little late to the discussion...but I've been a fan of the Amazing Grace/Gilligan's Island phenomenon for a long time now...In my old church we sang Amazing Grace to the Eagle's "Peaceful Easy Feeling" (they're not quite exact in structure, but...). I sometimes do this in my head in the car...like switching off "Have a Little Faith in Me" with "Let It Be."

As far as a word for this concept...I'm also a fan of ambigrams, and I thought why not call these songs "ambitunes"? As in, The Theme from Gilligan's Islan and Amazing Grace are ambitunes...each song's lyrics can be song to either song's melody.

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2011/04/05 - 7:57pm

Filk -- glad to hear the shout-out, but it is more common to science-fiction fandom than SCAdians. SCA event music runs more to Irish/folk/traditional...

I do remember one memorable filksing (a song circle primarily intended for filk) long, long ago, where a wide variety of metrical matches between widely disparate songs was explored. A memorable example was a song by Gordon R. Dickson, about the spacegoing mercenaries featured in his novels, the "Dorsai", with lyrics of:

They little knew of brotherhood,
The faith of fighting men,
Who once to prove their lie was good,
Hanged Colonel Jacques Chrétien.

being put to the tune of "Yankee Doodle"....and it was considered an article of faith that ANYTHING could be put to the tune of "Greensleeves".

"Eat Grandma" -- One can also subvert the whole paradigm. I have fond memories of a high-school freshman (advanced placement) English course who wrote three unpunctuated sentences on the blackboard for us to punctuate, that was a dialog between two children regarding how they should cook and eat their grandmother...

I know style guides occupy a whole other thread. I want to bring up Strunk & White's "Elements of Style", specifically for this show. I recall one rule (that I agreed with and adopted myself) that stated "Always form the possessive with 's", finessing the whole elsewhere-standard "if the word ends with s..." battle of exceptions and counter-exceptions. So Hendrix's anything would always be written as such, to my mind.

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2011/10/13 - 1:39pm

> A Lawrenceville, Georgia, woman wonders: If chalkboards go the way of the buggy whip, what simile will replace the expression nails on a chalkboard?

A fork on china and fingernails on a balloon are both good--but no one said the first thing I thought of: handling Styrofoam. Gah. It gives me the shivers just typing it!

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